Elder statesman and first civilian governor of Kaduna State,
Alhaji Balarabe Musa, has said that even though the Middle Belt may have some
grievances that they remain north and will always work with the region.
He warned the south not to be blinded to think that Northern
minorities will work against the North.
In an interview with VINCENT KALU, Alhaji Musa also called
for restructuring of the country along regions, as practiced in the First
Republic.
What is your view on the way things are going in this
country?
It’s really an unfortunate situation. The worst is that we
are not satisfied with the performance of Buhari, but when you look at the
country all over, the tragedy is that a better person has not emerged. Look at
the entire country, do you compare Buhari with those who are wishing to take
over from him. Can you say they can perform better, the answer is no, unless
you want to deceive yourself. Mention them from the North, East, West and
South.
Those who can emerge to do better have no one to sponsor
them, and they are the ones who can perform better than those that have failed.
This money politics makes it impossible for someone who can
do it better to emerge. Money power is the deciding factor to win an election
in Nigeria. Under this situation, how can you find somebody who can perform?
For him to emerge he must have so much money.
There are people who are 100 per cent better than Buhari but
they can’t emerge because of this money politics. This is a big tragedy for
Nigeria.
You have painted a gloomy picture of the polity, where do we
go from here?
The first thing is for us to reconcile ourselves, and agree
that we have one united Nigeria in which everybody has a sence of belonging.
In order words, we have to reconstruct, even if we don’t
like the word, ‘reconstruction’, and the agenda of those calling for
reconstruction, but we really need reconstruction for two reasons.
The first is that we have been in existence for more than
100 years and within this period we have made a lot of sacrifices and we
shouldn’t loose it simply because of problem.
Secondly, we have harmed ourselves to certain extent that we
don’t even regard this 100 years experience as worth it, and we are talking of
ethnic nationalities, which is not necessary any where in the world today; no
where in the world today that you talk of ethnic nationalities. A big country
in the world, the biggest black nation, what have we to do with ethnic
nationalities?
So, there has to be a reconstruction of Nigeria so that
everybody will have a sence of belonging.
We should reconstruct along viable political units. In order
words, we have to return to regional arrangements, and make do with the six
regions, which should be the federating units, and not the unviable 36 states.
Let every region create as many states and local governments
as they can cater for with their resources, so that nothing can come from the
centre to the states or local governments. The federating units are the regions
and there is nothing that the centre will give to the regions, and each should
manage its affairs, and they can do it.
That was the way Eastern Region, the Northern Region, the
Western Region and the Mid Western Region that came up later were doing it,
None of them failed to pay salaries of workers, which is the issue we are
having today. We are advocating restructuring to the return of the regional
arrangement.
We also are supporting restructuring in improving the
economy; we want the states, in order words the centre, the regions and other
units, each of them to play the leading role in the economy.
For instance, the centre should play the leading role in the
economy, the regions should also play the leading role in the economy to cope
with situation and correct the damage being done by the stupid thing called,
open market economy. Market economy will return us to slavery, because the
economy of countries of the world is not the same.
If you talk of market economy, you are talking of equality
and competition and so on, how can Nigeria compete with America, Germany,
France and Britain. It is not possible for us to compete with them because the
competition is not of equals. These are countries that built their wealth on
the basis of slavery, and what opportunity have we to enslave anybody? We don’t
have such.
So, as far we are concerned, the state should play leading
roles in the economy to ensure peace, equality, justice, dignity of the human
person and prosperity and even development of the country. That is the solution
to the problem we have.
For example, if we say we abide by the market economy, at
the moment, it is very difficult for investors to invest in Nigeria; even the
bureaucratic system makes its very difficult for them. If a foreign investor
comes to Nigeria, before he can bring his money to work, he would face a lot of
huddles, why should it be so? Simply because the states have no adequate role.
Did we have this difficulty before 1970? No, we had no difficulty with
investors coming into Nigeria. Our difficulty was imperialism because the
government had to agree before this man comes to invest. Also, during the
colonial times, nobody could come and invest without the approval of the
British government who held the colonial power. We are now supposed to be free.
We should have a free policy so that any investor can come to Nigeria and
invest with confidence. But where is the confidence now.
I oppose this idea of resource control because it will not
enable our unity. For instance, this resource control for those advocating for
it should know that it would undermine ourselves.
For instance, those asking for resource control except
troublemakers in the East and in the West, are the South south, that is the
Niger Delta, it will inevitably work against them because we are talking of
what Nigeria should look like in the next 100 years.
In the next 50 years what would we have in the Niger Delta
as a resource when the oil may be insignificant? What we have is largely in the East, in the
West and in the North.
In 20 years time when oil is no more, what would they have,
is it fish? Even the land resources had been destroyed by oil exploration. If
there is no more oil in the Niger Delta, there would be no economic resource,
and what would they have when they talk of resource control.
But when there was no resource control, the resources in the
north, the east and west sustained the economy in the 100 years before the
discovery oil in the Niger Delta.
When you take into account human benefits, resource control
by a unit is not in our own interest. Let us have central resource control with
the region to take care of everybody.
We know that what oil exploration in the Niger Delta has
done to the environment is by far more than what coal mining in the east and
tin mining in the Jos did to the people of the area.
The oil exploration in that region has made the environment
uneconomic in the next 200 years.
We have to recognise that the people of Niger Delta really
have a case in favour of compensation for them. This is being done, but
unfortunately some irresponsible state governments who receive huge sums of
money from the central government to undo the damage being done to the people
of the region by oil exploration are not doing anything in this direction.
But the central government also, which devotes a lot of
money for the Niger Delta recovery conspires with elites in the region to steal
the money.
So, we want restructuring along reconciliation, along
regional government.
You are one of the elder statesmen in the North, supporting
restructuring, others are opposed to it but the Middle Belt came out and
distanced itself from the position of the North…
(Cuts in) Those in
the Middle Belt are calling nonsence. Those in the Middle Belt and those in the
South are calling nonsence. They are just undermining the interest of the
country, just as much as the so-called, ignorant Northern youth.
Particular those Southern leaders, calling for restructuring
are not doing so because of their concern for Nigeria. They are doing it for
their own different regions; some of them want return to ethnic nationality.
Again, those southern leaders that are even supporting these
Northern youth are only making trouble for Nigeria because those youth who gave
this quit notice order should be condemned, just like all the relevant leaders
in the north have condemned them.
The southern leaders, particularly those who are holding
powers in the South have behaved in such a way that there is less hope for
Nigeria.
These so-called Southern leaders, who are troublemakers, are
adding to the situation that led to the civil war.
How did the civil war come about? It was by the over use of
power by the NPC in the North, but reaction to that was not in the interest of
Nigeria as a whole, it was just against the North.
What did it result to? It was the conspiracy between the
western section of the south and the eastern section of the south, as they
ganged together to make the 1966 coup possible.
That is the same thing they are now doing. Those leaders in
the south who never agree among themselves are playing the same game, which led
to the 1966 coup.
The elites in the west told the elites in the East let us
come together and do something about this feudal and conservative attitude of
the north.
But, instead of doing it in the interest of Nigeria, and in
the interest of everybody, they did it in the interest of conspiracy. The
leaders in the east found out that they had been betrayed by the leaders in the
west, and that is exactly what they are doing.
The northern youth provoked the rest of Nigeria, and instead
of dealing with the reaction of the northern youth, these so called, southern
leaders, who never agreed among themselves, who always conspire among
themselves came out to support the ignorant northern youth.
Look at these so called Southern leaders, can you name any
of them who took part really in the building of Nigeria. None of them.
Whatever their problems, the Zik, the Awolowo and the Bello
really kept the country together in spite of their different backgrounds. One
was republican; another was liberal and the other conservative, but they all
agreed that different sections of the country can have their self government
according their preparedness. They prepared and have self government. They also
agreed that by 1960, they should have one independence for Nigeria because they
realized that it was in the interest of all of them.
These Northern youth who are giving ultimatum (the way they
gave the ultimatum is unnorthern; not in accordance with the culture of the
North. The culture of the North is that the youth listen to their leaders; the
youth never call the shots) cannot compare with their counterparts in the
South. The Northern youth are 40 years behind in education and development
compared with their counterparts in the South.
They are the ones giving ultimatum to other Nigerians; it is
not in accordance with culture of the North, and yet some so-called Southern
leaders are supporting them.
The Middle Belt has also joined the South in calling for
restructuring, does it mean that the North is now divided and the monolithic is
gone?
I told you about troublemakers. When the civil war came
didn’t the Middle Belt unit with the north against Biafra? The war against
Biafra was not fought by the Hausa/ Fulani alone, the Middle Belt was greatly
involved. Don’t listen to that.
They may have grievances. For instance, when you consider
Huasa/Fulani, Kanuri, who are the bases of the Northern leaders.
When you are talking about that the rest of the North, they
look too feudal and conservative, and that is justified, there is no doubt
about it.
When you come to any issue, Middle Belters prefer to go
where historically they have a sense of belonging and that is what happened
when the civil war came and they united against Biafra,
Let us have a situation where we all will belong to one
Nigeria, where everybody has a sense of belonging.
But, you can’t say the old monolithic north is no more.
Because history, resources, population are more in their favour.
Even though the Middle Belt may have some grievances, like I
said it should be addressed, but that should not blind people in Nigeria,
particularly from the south that when it comes to the end of consideration of
any issue that Middle Belters will work against the north; they will always be
with the north.
In fact, what relationship has the northern minority in
common with the south west in terms of history, in terms of economy and in
terms of everything?
What have they got to do with the southeast? We are not
talking of principle of humanity.
They have everything to do with the north because
historically they have been there, they intermingle, and even economically they
are closer. What economic relationship has the Middle Belt with the west; what
economic relation has the Middle Belt with the east?
They have genuine grievances, and that doesn’t mean that
they are closer to the south. They are northerners.
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